Collecting Ten Mile River, one patch at a time
The 2009 TMR Alumni Day will take place on Saturday July 11, 2009. This is an annual event held at the Headquarters Camp beginning around 11:00 AM.
The TMR Museum will be open throughout the day.
Here is a chance to meet up with some old friends, relieve some of your history, and see what the camp looks like today.
I plan on being there, and will be working at the Museum. Stop by and say hello. Should give me a chance to get the 2009 Camp issues to.
I recently picked up an oddity from Henry Kaufmann Scout Camp. Issued for the Bicentennial, it appears to be silk-screened on a light piece of canvas, perhaps to be ironed on to a neckerchief.
Henry Kaufmann Bicentennial Patch 1958 -1976
I also have a similar item from Camp Pouch, although that one is a rectangle. Does anyone have simialr items from the other GNYC Camps at that time?
After the era of individual Camp Staff neckerchiefs, there were several years where uniform staff neckerchiefs were worn throughout the reservation.
In 1960 there was Green and Blue Tartan, in 1961 the same patch was used bit the Tartan was Gray and Green. The patches show a map of TMR broken down into the three section (Delaware, Crystal and Schiff). The color of the lettering of the Section and Camp name is coded to the color of the Section in the map.
The location of the individual camp is denoted by a red star.
Pictured below is the 1961 Chappegat Staff Neckerchief.
1961 Chappegat Staff
I have a number of needs from both 1960 and 1961 if anyone has one or more available.
TMR Delaware\Crystal\Schiff Pie Neckerchief Needs:
1960 Green Tartan: Kunatah; updgrade only – Chappegat,
1961 Gray Tartan: Davis Lake, Iphetonga, Kernochan, Nianque, Rondack, Stillwaters,
I’ve always like the design of the Alpine Scout Camp Bicentennial Patch, with the American Flag, Eagle and Liberty Bell. I never realized that there were two varieties.
The upper image shows a single flat rolled edge border, the bottom image has a second lighter yellow border appears to be added to the original. Both a cloth backed, the lettering in the double-bordered patch is thicker and the tags are different from the single border variety.
Alpine Scout Camp Bicentennial Jacket Patch Varieties
Does anyone discovered other variations in seemingly identical issues?
While this patch does not contain the words Ten Mile River Scout Camps or TMR it was sold in the camp trading posts in 1984.
So call it a TMR Patch or a Council Patch, but that is where it was offered for sale.
GNYC or TMR? You Decide
Thanks to Douglas Chin for the photo.
Douglas Chin provides a scan of a generic 1956 Camp Staff Patch. These issues have been seen with dates from at least the mid-1950’s to the mid 190’s. This particular patch was listed in the 1st Edition of A Guide to Memorabilia of the Ten Mile River Scout Camps as belonging to Headquarters Staff.
The information on this patch is anecdotal, and we have never been able to confirm its authenticity with a member of Headquarters Staff.
Can anyone confirm its use in either this year or any other year?
Ten Mile River 1956 Headquarters Staff?
Gene Berman, the Chairman of the TMR Museum recently posted this announcement to Patch-L:
For those of you that pre-ordered our 10 patch founder’s day sets, they have finally arrived and Dave will be mailing them out early next week. They were due the beginning of May but we experienced the same problems with National nit-picking shades and sizes as some of you have been talking about on patch-L. But alls well that ends well and we do have them now in our possession. To date from the pre-order, 22 of the 50 sets with silver Mylar border have been sold meaning that with the upcoming summer camp season at TMR and the pre-NOAC TradeOree, we likely will be sold out by summer’s end of the special silver Mylar sets.
Only 50 sets and no more will be made. The white border sets we have sold 32 sets on the pre-order but we will reorder those if we sell out.
If you have not seen them yet and they do look very good, you can go to our website, and click on the right where the thumbnail is for buying the set and it will take you to the order form and a view of the set.
Also, we still have a few sets left of the 42 patch RWS series of 7 colors used in NY between 1941-1974 and 6 entities using them, meaning the five boroughs of NYC and Greater New York Councils. Both sets are council approved. To see those look on our home page for Museum shop and you can follow the links.
The Boys Scouts of Greater New York Councils took over Sanita Hills Camp, a 1100-acre resort for employees of the New York City Department of Sanitation in May 1956. The camp was used by GNYC for many years including a stint as a separate summer camp during the late 1960’s and early 1970’s. It was later sold in the mid – late 1980’s.
A number of patches, neckerchiefs and slides were issued for this camp. Douglas Chin provides a scan of one of the backpatches issued for the camp.
Sanita Hills Coompass Jacket Patch
Douglas Chin sends along a scan of the 1981 Indian Cliffs backpatch.
I see a Blue IC 1978 TMR Square Back Patch on the TMR Memorabalia website. This patch is not dated. I have a 1981 patch of the same design but only with the year 1981. I am sending you a picture of it in case you wish to put it on the TMR website.
The patch on the TMR website described as from 1978 is:
TMR Indian Cliffs Backpatch circa 1978?
and Douglas Chin’s scan of the 1981 Version.
1981 TMR Indian Cliffs Backpatch
While it is om the TMR Museum site as from 1978, I suspect it is from 1979 or 1980 (where there was no jacket patch) or 1982 where there are no known generic TMR issues.
In 1978, there were 4 different round jacket patches with an orange background so it is unlikely to be from that year.
Can anyone confirm when it is from?
I have the 1981 version in my collection; but I’m missing the undated version. This was during the time I was up in Syracuse. Anyone have one for trade or sale?
The latest issue of Smoke Signals #10, the Journal of the Ten Mile River Scout Museum is now available on-line.
You can find my latest column, Collecting TMR: Neckerchief or Scarf there:
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